Wooden Satellite

https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/japans_wooden_satellite_leaves_the/

Leon

2025-01-09 17:26:19 UTC

Post by Scott Lurndal
https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/japans_wooden_satellite_leaves_the/

Pretty cool.

Are you out of harms way over there?

Scott Lurndal

2025-01-09 18:19:57 UTC

Post by Scott Lurndal
https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/japans_wooden_satellite_leaves_the/

Pretty cool.
Are you out of harms way over there?

Yeah. I used to live in Pasadena, and the area
I lived in was evacuated. It was not damaged, however,
since the winds were blowing the Eaton fire to the west/southwest
into Altadena, parts of which were hit pretty hard. 70-80
mph wind gusts would blow embers for miles. I used to hike
Eaton Canyon weekly in the 80's, very rugged mountainous
terrain.

The winds prevented any air support (water drops), which exacerbated
the damage.

Other friends were evacuated from the La Canada/Flintridge
area, but that seems to have escaped any damage. Pacific
Palisades looks to have very significant damage.

I'm about 350 miles north of there.

Leon

2025-01-10 15:05:15 UTC

Post by Scott Lurndal
https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/japans_wooden_satellite_leaves_the/

Pretty cool.
Are you out of harms way over there?

Yeah. I used to live in Pasadena, and the area
I lived in was evacuated. It was not damaged, however,
since the winds were blowing the Eaton fire to the west/southwest
into Altadena, parts of which were hit pretty hard. 70-80
mph wind gusts would blow embers for miles. I used to hike
Eaton Canyon weekly in the 80's, very rugged mountainous
terrain.
The winds prevented any air support (water drops), which exacerbated
the damage.
Other friends were evacuated from the La Canada/Flintridge
area, but that seems to have escaped any damage. Pacific
Palisades looks to have very significant damage.
I'm about 350 miles north of there.

Good to know you are safe. As you probably know, like hurricanes here
in Texas, it is reported all over the world that California has been
burnt to a crisp, brizillion's of acres gone. Your governor is not
looking good, politically, along with LA's mayor.

We had a small hurricane back in July and the local utility Center Point
is still catching hell over power lines going down and people being with
out power. That in it self is to be expected, I recall being with out
electricity for 11 days after a 2008 hurricane, Ike. But people these
days are ill prepared for any deviation in their life styles because of
mother nature events.

Markem618

2025-01-10 19:58:59 UTC

Post by Scott Lurndal
https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/japans_wooden_satellite_leaves_the/

Pretty cool.
Are you out of harms way over there?

Yeah. I used to live in Pasadena, and the area
I lived in was evacuated. It was not damaged, however,
since the winds were blowing the Eaton fire to the west/southwest
into Altadena, parts of which were hit pretty hard. 70-80
mph wind gusts would blow embers for miles. I used to hike
Eaton Canyon weekly in the 80's, very rugged mountainous
terrain.
The winds prevented any air support (water drops), which exacerbated
the damage.
Other friends were evacuated from the La Canada/Flintridge
area, but that seems to have escaped any damage. Pacific
Palisades looks to have very significant damage.
I'm about 350 miles north of there.

Good to know you are safe. As you probably know, like hurricanes here
in Texas, it is reported all over the world that California has been
burnt to a crisp, brizillion's of acres gone. Your governor is not
looking good, politically, along with LA's mayor.
We had a small hurricane back in July and the local utility Center Point
is still catching hell over power lines going down and people being with
out power. That in it self is to be expected, I recall being with out
electricity for 11 days after a 2008 hurricane, Ike. But people these
days are ill prepared for any deviation in their life styles because of
mother nature events.

Meanwhile in the Midwest, we had an ice storm, 22 hours no power. The
house got down to 57F. I have put down about 90lbs of salt and now it
is snowing a light snow.

Our ISP replaced the fiber to coaxial node, so then I blow up two
modems due to 14.5 Vdc at the back of the modem.

Scott Lurndal

2025-01-10 22:09:42 UTC

Post by Scott Lurndal
https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/japans_wooden_satellite_leaves_the/

Pretty cool.
Are you out of harms way over there?

Yeah. I used to live in Pasadena, and the area
I lived in was evacuated. It was not damaged, however,
since the winds were blowing the Eaton fire to the west/southwest
into Altadena, parts of which were hit pretty hard. 70-80
mph wind gusts would blow embers for miles. I used to hike
Eaton Canyon weekly in the 80's, very rugged mountainous
terrain.
The winds prevented any air support (water drops), which exacerbated
the damage.
Other friends were evacuated from the La Canada/Flintridge
area, but that seems to have escaped any damage. Pacific
Palisades looks to have very significant damage.
I'm about 350 miles north of there.

In reality, the total burn areas sum to less than 100
square miles (64,000 sq acres) at this point - while
the entire state is 163,000 square miles in area.

Leon

2025-01-23 21:55:45 UTC

Post by Scott Lurndal
https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/japans_wooden_satellite_leaves_the/

Pretty cool.
Are you out of harms way over there?

Yeah. I used to live in Pasadena, and the area
I lived in was evacuated. It was not damaged, however,
since the winds were blowing the Eaton fire to the west/southwest
into Altadena, parts of which were hit pretty hard. 70-80
mph wind gusts would blow embers for miles. I used to hike
Eaton Canyon weekly in the 80's, very rugged mountainous
terrain.
The winds prevented any air support (water drops), which exacerbated
the damage.
Other friends were evacuated from the La Canada/Flintridge
area, but that seems to have escaped any damage. Pacific
Palisades looks to have very significant damage.
I'm about 350 miles north of there.

In reality, the total burn areas sum to less than 100
square miles (64,000 sq acres) at this point - while
the entire state is 163,000 square miles in area.

The media's mantra is, NEVER let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Leon

2025-01-23 21:52:55 UTC

Post by Markem618

Post by Scott Lurndal
https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/japans_wooden_satellite_leaves_the/

Pretty cool.
Are you out of harms way over there?

Yeah. I used to live in Pasadena, and the area
I lived in was evacuated. It was not damaged, however,
since the winds were blowing the Eaton fire to the west/southwest
into Altadena, parts of which were hit pretty hard. 70-80
mph wind gusts would blow embers for miles. I used to hike
Eaton Canyon weekly in the 80's, very rugged mountainous
terrain.
The winds prevented any air support (water drops), which exacerbated
the damage.
Other friends were evacuated from the La Canada/Flintridge
area, but that seems to have escaped any damage. Pacific
Palisades looks to have very significant damage.
I'm about 350 miles north of there.

Good to know you are safe. As you probably know, like hurricanes here
in Texas, it is reported all over the world that California has been
burnt to a crisp, brizillion's of acres gone. Your governor is not
looking good, politically, along with LA's mayor.
We had a small hurricane back in July and the local utility Center Point
is still catching hell over power lines going down and people being with
out power. That in it self is to be expected, I recall being with out
electricity for 11 days after a 2008 hurricane, Ike. But people these
days are ill prepared for any deviation in their life styles because of
mother nature events.

Meanwhile in the Midwest, we had an ice storm, 22 hours no power. The
house got down to 57F. I have put down about 90lbs of salt and now it
is snowing a light snow.
Our ISP replaced the fiber to coaxial node, so then I blow up two
modems due to 14.5 Vdc at the back of the modem.

3 years ago we had winter storm Eury. Most of Texas lost power for a
few days, we did with out for about 26 hours and we too were in the low
50's inside the house. Our main issue for loss of power through out the
state was/is the fact that Texas has seen a huge influx of people coming
here from the east and west coast. The demand is up and that caused the
shortage even though the temps only got down to 15 degrees. in 1989 the
temp went down to 7/Seven degrees and there were no power outages like
we had 3 years ago.

Scott Lurndal

2025-01-23 22:42:43 UTC

Post by Markem618
Meanwhile in the Midwest, we had an ice storm, 22 hours no power. The
house got down to 57F. I have put down about 90lbs of salt and now it
is snowing a light snow.
Our ISP replaced the fiber to coaxial node, so then I blow up two
modems due to 14.5 Vdc at the back of the modem.

IIRC the outage three years ago was caused indirectly by ERCOT which
resulted in gas trasmission lines for several power plants to be
shutdown.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/02/15/texas-power-grid-winter-storm-2021/

" The inability of power plants to perform in the extreme cold
was the No. 1 cause of the outages last year."

"During the February 2021 winter storm, transmission companies
inadvertently cut power to parts of the natural gas supply chain
when ERCOT ordered the utilities to reduce power demand or risk
further damage to the grid."

"At the same time, some wells were unable to produce as much natural
gas due to the freezing conditions."

There was no indications that it was related to any increase in
population, regardless of the source.

Markem618

2025-01-24 07:10:37 UTC

Post by Scott Lurndal
https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/japans_wooden_satellite_leaves_the/

Pretty cool.
Are you out of harms way over there?

Yeah. I used to live in Pasadena, and the area
I lived in was evacuated. It was not damaged, however,
since the winds were blowing the Eaton fire to the west/southwest
into Altadena, parts of which were hit pretty hard. 70-80
mph wind gusts would blow embers for miles. I used to hike
Eaton Canyon weekly in the 80's, very rugged mountainous
terrain.
The winds prevented any air support (water drops), which exacerbated
the damage.
Other friends were evacuated from the La Canada/Flintridge
area, but that seems to have escaped any damage. Pacific
Palisades looks to have very significant damage.
I'm about 350 miles north of there.

Good to know you are safe. As you probably know, like hurricanes here
in Texas, it is reported all over the world that California has been
burnt to a crisp, brizillion's of acres gone. Your governor is not
looking good, politically, along with LA's mayor.
We had a small hurricane back in July and the local utility Center Point
is still catching hell over power lines going down and people being with
out power. That in it self is to be expected, I recall being with out
electricity for 11 days after a 2008 hurricane, Ike. But people these
days are ill prepared for any deviation in their life styles because of
mother nature events.

Meanwhile in the Midwest, we had an ice storm, 22 hours no power. The
house got down to 57F. I have put down about 90lbs of salt and now it
is snowing a light snow.
Our ISP replaced the fiber to coaxial node, so then I blow up two
modems due to 14.5 Vdc at the back of the modem.

Texas is also it's own power grid. We are connected to a coop, when we
moved down here they were just opening the most efficient coal plant,
in Marrissa IL, all coal mined and processed on site that was in 99.

Still makes me consider a backup system.

Just Another Joe

2025-01-24 08:53:12 UTC

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didn’t want it to spoil her view
out the window 😵‍💫

That whole process is not cheap! But like life insurance, it’s something
you do, and hope you don’t ever have to use it!

Joe

h***@ccanoemail.com

2025-01-24 15:06:00 UTC

On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didnt want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

What are the inspection requirements for that underground tank ?
I recently considered purchasing a separate dedicated propane tank
for a proposed standby generator but was told that it needed a minor
inspection every 5 years and a major inspection every 10 years.
My existing tanks are rented, so I've never had to worry about it.
John T.

Clare Snyder

2025-01-24 21:58:42 UTC

Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didnt want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

So just rent another tank??

h***@ccanoemail.com

2025-01-24 23:35:40 UTC

Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didnt want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

So just rent another tank??

They aren't keen on renting one that may be filled only
every 5 years or so .. understandably.
John T.

Clare Snyder

2025-01-25 01:40:13 UTC

Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didnt want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

So just rent another tank??

They aren't keen on renting one that may be filled only
every 5 years or so .. understandably.
John T.

put a set of valves on to allow you to rotate tanks so they get to
fill both at least once every 18 months??

h***@ccanoemail.com

2025-01-25 02:52:38 UTC

Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didnt want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

So just rent another tank??

They aren't keen on renting one that may be filled only
every 5 years or so .. understandably.
John T.

put a set of valves on to allow you to rotate tanks so they get to
fill both at least once every 18 months??

The problem is the location of the existing 2 tanks is at
the furthest corner of the house from the electric meter.
< where I'd like the generator located >
... it's a long & tricky run to bury the propane line,
but I expect that is what I'll need to have done.
I'm also trying to avoid disturbing the somewhat newly
refinished basement.
John T.

Scott Lurndal

2025-01-25 20:41:28 UTC

Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didnt want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

So just rent another tank??

They aren't keen on renting one that may be filled only
every 5 years or so .. understandably.
John T.

put a set of valves on to allow you to rotate tanks so they get to
fill both at least once every 18 months??

Would it be easier to colocate the generator with those
tanks, and run the electrical line from the generator
to the transfer switch?

h***@ccanoemail.com

2025-01-25 20:55:08 UTC

Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didnt want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

So just rent another tank??

They aren't keen on renting one that may be filled only
every 5 years or so .. understandably.
John T.

put a set of valves on to allow you to rotate tanks so they get to
fill both at least once every 18 months??

Would it be easier to colocate the generator with those
tanks, and run the electrical line from the generator
to the transfer switch?

Not a lot of difference - in running buried propane line
or buried wire. I'm not keen on running either up and through
2 split-level attics and back down.
The generator located at the meter is best for noise also -
outside the garage rather than the kitchen.
John T.

Leon

2025-01-28 01:15:20 UTC

Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didn’t want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

So just rent another tank??

They aren't keen on renting one that may be filled only
every 5 years or so .. understandably.
John T.

put a set of valves on to allow you to rotate tanks so they get to
fill both at least once every 18 months??

Would it be easier to colocate the generator with those
tanks, and run the electrical line from the generator
to the transfer switch?

Kind of a coin toss. The lions share of the cost to bury copper wire
or copper pipe is the labor.
We were extremely lucky as there was no extra charge to run the pipe and
cable to our meters. The generator is behind our 3rd stall of our
garage and the meters are located on the side of that 3rd stall. It was
all run above ground attached to the brick.

Clare Snyder

2025-01-28 03:12:33 UTC

Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didnt want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

So just rent another tank??

They aren't keen on renting one that may be filled only
every 5 years or so .. understandably.
John T.

put a set of valves on to allow you to rotate tanks so they get to
fill both at least once every 18 months??

Would it be easier to colocate the generator with those
tanks, and run the electrical line from the generator
to the transfer switch?

My backup generator is not permanently attached and won't run the
WHOLE house at once - but will run the basics - furnace, lights,
microwave, even the kitchen stove if nothing other than lights are on
with it. Helps we are almost 100% LED for lighting.
I need to pull it out of the shed and plug it into the house (and
flip the interlock switch) when it is needed
It will run on gasoline, Propane at about 80%, and Natural gas at
closer to 70% power. For long term outages I would have to ration the
power a bit and run on natural gas. I keep 2 20 lb propane tanks
around and usually also keep about 20 gallons of gasoline - enough to
run a couple days of full power requirements if necessary. I don't
have the gasoline this year because I can't handle the cans after my
back surgery - and I'm not running my snow blower for the same reason
(I used to blow a lot of the neighbour's snow too) - so I'm HOPING we
don't have an outage this winter ____

Leon

2025-02-07 21:15:07 UTC

Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didn’t want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

So just rent another tank??

They aren't keen on renting one that may be filled only
every 5 years or so .. understandably.
John T.

put a set of valves on to allow you to rotate tanks so they get to
fill both at least once every 18 months??

Would it be easier to colocate the generator with those
tanks, and run the electrical line from the generator
to the transfer switch?

I never wanted to consider having 20 gallons of gasoline around for a
generator. You do what you have to do but gasoline does eventually go
bad, even with a stabilizer.

Clare Snyder

2025-02-09 04:10:41 UTC

Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:53:12 -0500, Just Another Joe

Post by Markem618
Still makes me consider a backup system.

In the past year I installed a 22 KW Generac generator. It included a 500
gallon propane tank, buried because SWMBO didnt want it to spoil her view
out the window ???
Joe

So just rent another tank??

They aren't keen on renting one that may be filled only
every 5 years or so .. understandably.
John T.

put a set of valves on to allow you to rotate tanks so they get to
fill both at least once every 18 months??

Would it be easier to colocate the generator with those
tanks, and run the electrical line from the generator
to the transfer switch?

I never wanted to consider having 20 gallons of gasoline around for a
generator. You do what you have to do but gasoline does eventually go
bad, even with a stabilizer.

It gets dumped into the Ranger come spring - never gets more than
about 5 months old and have never had a problem in over 10 years.

Leon

2025-01-28 01:08:51 UTC