Remove carpet before cabinet install?

[Eric Smith]

I have just finished painting some built in cabinets I made for my living
room. (I had to have somewhere to put my new plasma tv!!!) My question is:
Should I remove the carpet before I install the cabinets or would it be okay
to install them over the carpet? The cabinets are ten feet long and will
be screwed to the wall. I have three bookcases that will go on top of the
cabinet. They will screwed to the wall also. What do yall think? I'm
leaning towards removing the carpet but I'm not sure.

[Dave Balderstone]

Post by Eric Smith
What do yall think? I'm
leaning towards removing the carpet but I'm not sure.

Removing it now will make replacing what's left a lot simpler in the
future.

[Leon]

Post by Dave Balderstone
Removing it now will make replacing what's left a lot simpler in the
future.

If the cabinets are permanent you do not have to replace the carpet that is
under them, ever.

[Dave Balderstone]

Post by Leon
If the cabinets are permanent you do not have to replace the carpet that is
under them, ever.

No, but someone will have to cut it away.

Leaving the carpet in place is a half-assed way to do the job.

[Leon]

Post by Dave Balderstone

Post by Leon
If the cabinets are permanent you do not have to replace the carpet that is
under them, ever.

No, but someone will have to cut it away.

Is that a big deal?? Who ever lays the new carpet will have to do a lot of
cuts anyway. Carpet really cuts quite easily.

Leaving the carpet in place is a half-assed way to do the job.

I would not say so, it would save a lot unnecessary work as you will have
to cut it away, put down tack strips and restretch the carpet to that point.

[Dave Balderstone]

Post by Leon

Post by Dave Balderstone
Removing it now will make replacing what's left a lot simpler in the
future.

If the cabinets are permanent you do not have to replace the carpet that is
under them, ever

Oh, by the way... if you read what I wrote you will see that I was not
referring to replacing the carpet under the cabinets.

[Leon]

Post by Dave Balderstone
Oh, by the way... if you read what I wrote you will see that I was not
referring to replacing the carpet under the cabinets.

I read it and understood it. Its no big deal to leave it there and cut it
away later.

[Mike O.]

Post by Eric Smith
Should I remove the carpet before I install the cabinets or would it be okay
to install them over the carpet? The cabinets are ten feet long and will
be screwed to the wall. I have three bookcases that will go on top of the
cabinet. They will screwed to the wall also. What do yall think? I'm
leaning towards removing the carpet but I'm not sure.

I would remove the carpet. If you don't and need to replace the
carpet down the road, you will have to cut the carpet then and figure
out how to hide the cut where the new carpet will run against it.
It shouldn't be too difficult to pull the carpet back, install the
cabinets and then cut the carpet back to the cabinets. I think later,
you will be glad you did.

Mike O.

[George]

Post by Eric Smith
I have just finished painting some built in cabinets I made for my living
Should I remove the carpet before I install the cabinets or would it be okay
to install them over the carpet? The cabinets are ten feet long and will
be screwed to the wall. I have three bookcases that will go on top of the
cabinet. They will screwed to the wall also. What do yall think? I'm
leaning towards removing the carpet but I'm not sure.

If you leave the carpet, you have to cope (pun intended) with the tack strip
up against the wall. Or you can simple put an extra 1/4" shim under the
forward edge of the kick to compensate.

As I do not have the tools for kicking carpet and making clean butt joins, I
leave it. When new carpet is required, it will be installed by a
professional who will cut the old carpet, install tack strips and tuck the
carpet properly against the kick, making a smooth edge. S/he will have all
the proper tools.

[dgadams]

Post by George

Post by Eric Smith
I have just finished painting some built in cabinets I made for my living
Should I remove the carpet before I install the cabinets or would it be okay
to install them over the carpet? The cabinets are ten feet long and will
be screwed to the wall. I have three bookcases that will go on top of the
cabinet. They will screwed to the wall also. What do yall think? I'm
leaning towards removing the carpet but I'm not sure.

If you leave the carpet, you have to cope (pun intended) with the tack strip
up against the wall. Or you can simple put an extra 1/4" shim under the
forward edge of the kick to compensate.
As I do not have the tools for kicking carpet and making clean butt joins, I
leave it. When new carpet is required, it will be installed by a
professional who will cut the old carpet, install tack strips and tuck the
carpet properly against the kick, making a smooth edge. S/he will have all
the proper tools.

I've had a bit of success removing carpet for built-ins, but I don't have
a kick tool. With new tack strip, a utility knife, and a hammer and blunt
cold chisel I was able to hook the carpet to the strip and fold it under
at the edges. When cut to the proper length it seemed to stretch back out
and fold under with no problem. I'd love to have a kick tool, but for the
two built-ins I've done in the last 10 years it ain't worth it. YMMV but
I'd say remove the carpet.

D. G. Adams

[Larry Jaques]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:14:16 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,

Post by dgadams
I've had a bit of success removing carpet for built-ins, but I don't have
a kick tool. With new tack strip, a utility knife, and a hammer and blunt
cold chisel I was able to hook the carpet to the strip and fold it under
at the edges. When cut to the proper length it seemed to stretch back out
and fold under with no problem. I'd love to have a kick tool, but for the
two built-ins I've done in the last 10 years it ain't worth it. YMMV but
I'd say remove the carpet.

Before you do your next carpeting-trimming job, see HF for one.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41838
It's often on sale for under $20 and is adjustable for carpet depth.

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Post by Eric Smith
I have just finished painting some built in cabinets I made for my living
Should I remove the carpet before I install the cabinets or would it be okay
to install them over the carpet?

If you pull the carpet out, it's a lot easier to shim and level the
cabinets during installation.

The job will probably come out nicer if you level and plumb the
cabinets properly with shims and supports, and ten screw them to the
walls, rather than forcing them close and screwing them to the wall.

Barry

[Phisherman]

Post by Eric Smith
I have just finished painting some built in cabinets I made for my living
Should I remove the carpet before I install the cabinets or would it be okay
to install them over the carpet? The cabinets are ten feet long and will
be screwed to the wall. I have three bookcases that will go on top of the
cabinet. They will screwed to the wall also. What do yall think? I'm
leaning towards removing the carpet but I'm not sure.

Since this is a built-in, remove the carpet and wrap the base molding
around your new cabinets. The downside is that the cabinets will go
with the house when you sell it.

[bent]

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[bent]

someone also just posted in the message about dremel how they use a cutting
wheel disk to make a groove in the top of bolts when installing these in
cabinets. my 2ç, the fiberglass disks are worth $, time, and aggravation



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[bent]

pick a low grade number bolt, if not using washer/dryer feet, which can be
tapered



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[bent]

if u can get under, just use a wrench, put another locking nut tight up
underneath. Could install a "kickplate", like for your feet in kitchens,
baseboard, wahatever, drill for bolt, counterbore (forstner, brad, spade, OR
regular for nut, hammer in from bottom up. Don't matter. I used select
pine 2x4, which is straight! could block them in



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[Leon]

Post by bent
pick a low grade number bolt, if not using washer/dryer feet, which can be
tapered

Is this bolt to help you remove the carpet?

[Larry Jaques]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:28:48 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Eric

Post by Eric Smith
I have just finished painting some built in cabinets I made for my living
Should I remove the carpet before I install the cabinets or would it be okay
to install them over the carpet? The cabinets are ten feet long and will
be screwed to the wall. I have three bookcases that will go on top of the
cabinet. They will screwed to the wall also. What do yall think? I'm
leaning towards removing the carpet but I'm not sure.

Remove the carpet, mark the floor, and put down new tack strip before
installing the cabinets, Eric.

I've seen places where wet carpeting rotted and got moldy under
cabinets like that before, and it's not pretty.

It's much easier to replace the carpeting later, too.


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[Mike Berger]

This is the best reason of all. The carpet under the cabinet can wick
moisture from other places and mold even if the rest of the carpet looks
dry.

Post by Larry Jaques
Remove the carpet, mark the floor, and put down new tack strip before
installing the cabinets, Eric.
I've seen places where wet carpeting rotted and got moldy under
cabinets like that before, and it's not pretty.
It's much easier to replace the carpeting later, too.

[RayV]

Newbie suggestion:

cut away most of the carpet and raise the builtins with plywood blocks.
Then when the carpet is replaced it can be tucked under the builtins.

[jo4hn]

Post by Eric Smith
I have just finished painting some built in cabinets I made for my living
Should I remove the carpet before I install the cabinets or would it be okay
to install them over the carpet? The cabinets are ten feet long and will
be screwed to the wall. I have three bookcases that will go on top of the
cabinet. They will screwed to the wall also. What do yall think? I'm
leaning towards removing the carpet but I'm not sure.

Sigh. Figure out where the cabinets will go. Put some carpet tacks or
better yet, some staples outside that dimension. Cut the carpet out.
Cut the tack strip out. Put in your cabinets. The carpet stays in
place and you don't have the problems with rotting carpet and wobbly
cabinets as others have discussed. When the time comes to replace the
carpet, it will not be a big deal for the carpet guys to pull the
staples and put in new tack strip. It'll be OK.
yours curmugeonly,
jo4hn